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More than 30 friends on Twitter? You need TweetDeck!

by Richard on Oct.21, 2008, under Technology

Twitter [www.twitter.com] is great. Its a really easy way to keep in touch with people you know, but also to keep tabs on people you don;t know but would like to, and also those who you will never know but only dream about.

My friends fall into 3 distinct groups:

  • Real friends - People I know and have possibly even met
  • Publishers - People who say stuff on Twitter that I find interesting and/or useful
  • Celebs - Not just true celebreties but generally people who I will probably never meet
I interract with these groups in very different ways.
  • For my real friends I want to read every tweet as it comes in so I can react and hold conversations with them.
  • When a publisher tweets I may well read it it it is relevant to me and possibly respond.
  • My celeb tweets will generally only be read at the end or start of the day.
i have also divided up my friends geographically so I can focus my attention on conversations in the USA, UK, France and the rest of the world.
How on earth do I sort through all these?  By the power of Greyskull TweetDeck [www.tweetdeck.com].

Got to get grouping!

As I have blogged previously, my Twitter client of choice has been Twhirl [www.twhirl.org] , but recent improvements to TweetDeck caught my eye and I decided to give it a go. And boy am I glad I did as I am now so happy with it.

Basically the big win for TweetDeck over Twhirl (and every other twitter client that I know of) is its group function.  I can assign each of my Twitter friends to any number of groups, and the tweets that fall under each group are displayed in their own column. So this then allows me to seperate out my conversations with my friends down the road from the ramblings of Scobelizer and chums. My “publisher” friends have their own group so I can pick out what is relevant, while the “celeb” group gets pushed out to the right-hand column where it can be viewed late in the day over a glass of wine.

Monitoring your brand

And groups are not just limited to individual users that you select. You can also create a group from a search. So, when it was the recent Future of Web Apps conference in London and I wanted to keep up with the chatter around it, I simply searched for “FOWA” in TweetDeck and that became a new column. Every time someone mentioned FOWA in a tweet somewhere on Twitter, it showed up in my FOWA column. Perfect!
Want to keep a look out for your brand name being mentioned? Search for “eDoofers” in Tweetdeck and everytime someone mentions “eDoofers” in a tweet, you’ll get it right there in your client. Better than alerts as you don’t need to check an email or read a text message. Everything you need it there in the client.
Iain Dodsworth [www.twitter.com/iaindodsworth] the developer is a very active tweeter and seems very open to new ideas and reports of problems, which is really encouraging. At the moment I am eagerly awaiting the release of v0.20 which is expected to bring big improvements due to a reworking of the underlying structure of the client
And don’t get me wrong, there is still room for improvement. The manner in which you create groups of people could be better, and it is still a little rough round the edges. The notifications could be better too (I like the notifications from Feedalizr [www.feedalizr.com], mentioned in my last post [here] ).

The must-have tool

But overall TweetDeck is now a gerat product and should really be on the desktop of every windows-based Twitter user. Especially those with a large number of friends. How one can manage more than 20 or 30 Twitter friends without TweetDeck is beyond me. It has become one of my most essential communication tools and I look forward to seeing what else it has to offer in the future.
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Feedalizr - a new pretender to the Twitter client throne?

by Richard on Oct.02, 2008, under Technology

I blogged a while ago [here] about the toss-up between Thwirl [website] and TweetDeck [website] as my Twitter client of choice. Having given TweetDeck a good run out, I did eventually go back to Twhirl, finding it just did everything I needed in a nice, slick, compact manner. TweedDeck was a bit rough around the edges and, although I really like the ability to group people and have their tweets visible in separate columns, i found the multi-column interface just too clumsy for me. I like my Twitter clients slim, trim and straight up-and-down :) .

However, a recent comment from Leezl [here] pointed me toward a new contender in the arena,  namely Feedalizr [home page]. So, always one to try out new stuff, I gave it a go.

Feedalizr (they just had to miss out a vowel somewhere) is an Adobe Air application, just like Twhirl and TweetDeck, that combines some of the best aspects of both rival clients into one pretty slick package. It manifests as a single column,  but with the ability to create separate tabs for items filtered by username or service (Feedalizr supports Twitter, FriendFeed, Flickr and Jaiku). This is reminiscent of the filtering offered by TweetDeck, but not quite as flexible. The tabbed interface is a big improvement though, and is something that TweetDeck should really look at implementing.

Overall the interface of Feedalizr feels good. Everything is smooth scrolling and the flipping effect when opening the “options” dialog is cool, if rather unnecessary. Click on someone’s name and their entries will appear in a new column. A nice slick way of picking out the signal from the noise.

One very nice feature that  that both Twhirl and TweetDeck lack is de-duping of FriendFeed items. If Feedalizr spots that someone has tweeted something, and that tweet then appears in that user’s FriendFeed list, it will hide the duplicate entry so you don’t read what your firends are eating for breakfast two times over every day.

There are a few niggly issues that take the polish off this potential Twhirl-beater. It doesn’t have Twhirls ability to click on an @name to display that users profile. And the pop-up notifications for new messages contain a rather spurious explanation, which I found unnecessary and distracted from  my reading of the messages.

It is still early days for Feedalizr, which, naturally,  is still in beta, but it’s certainly a promising start and I shall continue to look out for updates. I have added a few of my issues to their site on Get Satisfaction [here] so I’ll see what their response is.

Could Twhirl finally lose it’s crown? Not yet, but maybe soon.

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Thwirl or TweetDeck? How to Twitter…?

by Richard on Aug.05, 2008, under Technology

You may have noticed that I use Twitter, the up-and-down conversation/micro-blogging tool. Over there on the right-hand-side is my latest Twitter status from www.twitter.com/richard_barley.  I like using Twitter because it allows me to keep up with lots of folks, some who I would call friends, some who I have never met, without having to invest a lot of time and effort. This suits me as I am essentially rather lazy when it comes to socialising and anything that makes it easier is a winner for me.

Twitter works on the basis of people publishing messages of up to 140 characters. These messages could be anything such as notifications about new blog posts, comments on the weather, updates on a baby’s progress, breaking stories from news outlets, or just plain old “How are you ? I’m fine” type conversations.

There are lots of celebrities using Twitter both real and fake, and I even started up a conversation with Tickle, the cat from the holiday home we recently visited in Carcassonne, which was rather surreal.

Anyway, the big question for me currently is how to access Twitter? There are almost as many different ways to access it as there are crumbs festering in my keyboard. I have tried several in-browser solutions, but none of these gave me the nice warm glow that I was looking for. I use Digsby for all my IM conversations and that handles Twitter well, but I still couldn’t get on with it.

Then I discovered Twhirl and how I loved it’s Adobe Air sexiness. Functionality-wise, it does the lot for me and is a very stable and well-developed application. Then I came across TweetDeck - a new pretender to the crown. This has many of the same features that Twhirl has, but also some that it doesn’t, which are what make it appealing. One of the biggies for me is being able to collect your friends into groups. These groups automatically refresh when new messages (”tweets” in twitter language) arrive. This is really quite cool and allows me to skim down the tweets from those people I don’t really know, but just like to keep an eye on, while pulling out the important tweets from my closer friends and key notifications.

Where TweetDeck falls down is that it is still in early days. The interface can be a bit clunky and there are some important features missing - following/removing friends for instance. These will be addressed, but how soon?

So I have a dilemma. I know there is a redesign of the Twhirl interface coming along soon, and TweetDeck is constantly improving too. I would like to make a decision, but I think these two clients will be battling for my desktop space for a while to come.

In the meantime, why not sign yourself up for Twitter and see what you think? Let me know if you have a better solution.

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